Individual Room Control ELV the MAX!

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Re: Individual Room Control ELV the MAX!

Postby jrkalf » Tue Aug 30, 2011 11:23 am

elv MAX! is one of the ways to do individual heating control of rooms.

In this sub forums you'll also find a solution called FHT. Created by the same company with some more extensive capabilities.
Depending on your choice of product of functional requirements either can be nice ways of central heating controlled on a room level.

FHT is currently remote controllable by using a CUNO/FHZ device which is has a layer of FHEM on top. However, the creator of DomotiGa is currently implementing FS20/FHT support into it's management suite. So it might be a viable option as well.


One thing I don't know about the MAX! system, perhaps one of the owners can tell me: Does it work autonomously? I get the feeling you need that MAX! base system which controls all the actuators and it requirs constant power from the wall.

The FHT system is battery powered (lasting up to 2yrs per charge) and works without a central system coordinating it and requiring constant power from a computer or wallsocket.
If you can't fix it with a hammer, you've got an electrical problem!

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Re: Individual Room Control ELV the MAX!

Postby Digit » Tue Aug 30, 2011 11:54 am

I don't even have the hardware yet, so I'm not going to answer until I can say something based on my own findings.
In the mean time, maybe a search engine can help??? It might also be wise to check www.elv.de and/or www.eq-3.de
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Re: Individual Room Control ELV the MAX!

Postby blb » Tue Aug 30, 2011 12:30 pm

Digit,

I have maybe found the decoding of the date. I will check this evening if I'm right, I have currently 1 date which doesn't fit in the logic I have found, but maybe that was a wrong reading...

it looks like:

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Date (DDMM): 2908 (29th of August)
HEX: 9D0B
Binair: 1001 1101 0000 1011
decode: MMMD DDDD DM?? ????
MMMM: 1000 = 8
DDDDD: 11101 = 29
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Re: Individual Room Control ELV the MAX!

Postby Digit » Tue Aug 30, 2011 4:51 pm

Cool :) No MAX! for me this evening, another work in progress needs my attention; leave something to discover for me, will ya :lol:
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Re: Individual Room Control ELV the MAX!

Postby blb » Tue Aug 30, 2011 5:25 pm

Digit wrote:...leave something to discover for me, will ya :lol:


I'll try :)
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Re: Individual Room Control ELV the MAX!

Postby Bwired » Tue Aug 30, 2011 6:35 pm

:) :D My MAX! is on the way too from ELV, arriving same time as digits.
I dont mind that you guys find all the bytes, enough on my ToDo :)
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Re: Individual Room Control ELV the MAX!

Postby jrkalf » Tue Aug 30, 2011 8:32 pm

seems like people are starting to like the ELV goods:)
Will this coding attempt make it into the DomotiGa tree as well?


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Re: Individual Room Control ELV the MAX!

Postby Bwired » Tue Aug 30, 2011 9:31 pm

if all works Ron will pick it up I guess :)
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Re: Individual Room Control ELV the MAX!

Postby jrkalf » Tue Aug 30, 2011 9:39 pm

*slightly offtopic*
Ron's currently doing a hell of a job coding without having hardware and only having remote access to hardware ;)

I mean, he has the controlling interface (CUNO), but not FS20/FHT modules. He's doing a lot by replaying logfiles and making it work that way

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Re: Individual Room Control ELV the MAX!

Postby Digit » Tue Aug 30, 2011 9:51 pm

Yeah, I also use PIR13 and some small enclosures from ELV ;)
There's not much useful coding done yet; I did prepare a tool for decoding stuff though.
And there's still a lot to do; battery status, daylight saving, schedules etc...
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Re: Individual Room Control ELV the MAX!

Postby Digit » Wed Aug 31, 2011 4:52 pm

Hi blb,

Code: Select all
Date (DDMM): 2908 (29th of August)
HEX: 9D0B
Binair: 1001 1101 0000 1011
decode: MMMD DDDD DM?? ????
MMMM: 1000 = 8
DDDDD: 11101 = 29


And the last nibble is the year-2000.
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Re: Individual Room Control ELV the MAX!

Postby Digit » Thu Sep 01, 2011 12:00 pm

To ensure that we're not working on the same thing - I'm already making good progress on the H:-, M:- and C:-responses, of which examples are shown here: viewtopic.php?f=66&t=6239&start=15#p50494
I'll try to post what I found out later this evening.
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Re: Individual Room Control ELV the MAX!

Postby Bwired » Thu Sep 01, 2011 1:08 pm

i think its good to start a seprate post here with explaining the protocol, like we did for Visonic
BTW: My first (and for now only) valvue (radiatorkraan) is back to ELV, it would not callibrate, giving constantly F2 :(
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Re: Individual Room Control ELV the MAX!

Postby Digit » Thu Sep 01, 2011 7:53 pm

Hi there,
I started a post for the protocol info, here: viewtopic.php?f=66&t=6654&start=0
It will constantly be updated with new information when it becomes available.
Enjoy :)
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Re: Individual Room Control ELV the MAX!

Postby blb » Thu Sep 01, 2011 9:31 pm

Thanks Digit!
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