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Re: ZonOpToon alternative

PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:55 pm
by Cctl01
Sorry for the double posting but I already found the answer to my question here.
https://www.domoticaforum.eu/viewtopic.php?t=11587

Would in your opinion the next best solution be to create a tile that displays the p1 reading and solar out from Domoticz?
I have everything setup there, I'm just looking for a nifty way to display the readings on Toon.

Re: ZonOpToon alternative

PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2018 4:45 pm
by madpatrick
TerrorSource wrote:Hi guys,

I found an interesting way to do the ZonOpToon cheaper then the usual way.
Someone pointed me to the KWH1073PRO fuse box module, as a replacement for an official ZonOpToon fuse box module.
shop1: https://mdhelektroshop.nl/dmmetering-kw ... p-u-mid-23
shop2: https://www.installatievakwinkel.nl/ine ... kwh1073pro (slightly cheaper)

1. Buy it
2. Put it in the fuse box
3. Connect 1 analog wire to the module and the meteradapter
4. change the value's of "SolarDisplay" and "SolarActivated" in scsync.xml in 1 (instead of 0)
5. Reboot the toon
6. Wait untill the sun's up :)


Maybe a "stupid" question, but can you use the standard (Eneco) optic sensor with this module ?

Re: ZonOpToon alternative

PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2018 5:09 pm
by TerrorSource
Well you need to. There is no other option to read the data from the Solar module with the Meteradapter.

Re: ZonOpToon alternative

PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2018 5:49 pm
by TheHogNL
TerrorSource wrote:Well you need to. There is no other option to read the data from the Solar module with the Meteradapter.


Led optic (via the sensor) or wired using S0 is both possible. Eneco doesn't connect using S0, only using the optic sensor though.

Re: ZonOpToon alternative

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 11:18 am
by madpatrick
Where can you get the mountingclip to mount the sensor to the KwH meter ?
Is this supplied with the Toon ? it was not with the KwH module

Re: ZonOpToon alternative

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:55 pm
by TheHogNL
madpatrick wrote:Where can you get the mountingclip to mount the sensor to the KwH meter ?
Is this supplied with the Toon ? it was not with the KwH module


It is supplied with the sensors. Nowadays the sensors are not included standard in a new toon.

But I would advice to make a s0 wired connection instead of reading the led with the sensor. This is much more precise.

Re: ZonOpToon alternative

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 11:12 pm
by madpatrick
It is working bit indeed not accurate.
Even at night is say it is producing 6w

Re: ZonOpToon alternative

PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:01 am
by TheHogNL
madpatrick wrote:It is working bit indeed not accurate.
Even at night is say it is producing 6w


This is your inverter in night mode taking some power. Which kWh meter are you using? Some calculate in both directions indepently, some caclulate both directions together.

Re: ZonOpToon alternative

PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:40 am
by madpatrick
TheHogNL wrote:This is your inverter in night mode taking some power. Which kWh meter are you using? Some calculate in both directions indepently, some caclulate both directions together.


I'm using the INEPRO KWH1073PRO.
Not sure if this is calculating both directions.
Will this be resolvd by wiring S0 instead of optic sensor?

Re: ZonOpToon alternative

PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:54 pm
by TheHogNL
Eneco also is using this meter (pro1-s, not the pro1-2t but almost the same).
S0 or led doesn't make a difference in what is is doing.

However, look at the manual https://ineprometering.com/wp-content/u ... -V2.18.pdf section 7.11. I'm not sure but it looks like you can config if you want forward, reverse, both, the difference etc only.

Re: ZonOpToon alternative

PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:22 pm
by madpatrick
TheHogNL wrote:Eneco also is using this meter (pro1-s, not the pro1-2t but almost the same).
S0 or led doesn't make a difference in what is is doing.

However, look at the manual https://ineprometering.com/wp-content/u ... -V2.18.pdf section 7.11. I'm not sure but it looks like you can config if you want forward, reverse, both, the difference etc only.

I will try to change the setup
Only now find the button....

Re: ZonOpToon alternative

PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:33 pm
by TheHogNL
Isn't it the big arrow? Just like in this video (different brand, 3 fase.. but you see what i mean :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zazgV3QtJaA )

Re: ZonOpToon alternative

PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 3:37 pm
by madpatrick
TheHogNL wrote:Isn't it the big arrow? Just like in this video (different brand, 3 fase.. but you see what i mean :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zazgV3QtJaA )

Yep. this scrolls through the menu.
Unfortunately i can get in to the program menu.
Tried everything and scrolled the complete menu >20x. Hold the button 3-5 sec ....

Looks like you need the USB IR-eye, but unable to find one on the internet.

Re: ZonOpToon alternative

PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 5:07 am
by dennis071nl
Hey guys,

I really would like to have the Zon op Toon functionality but i'm not really into electrical stuff...:-)

I got a 3 *25 connection at my home, the solar panels have a integrated inverter. All panels are connected to a separate group.

Would it be better to buy the 3 or 1 phase Kwh meter for replacement of the existing fuse??

Thanks, Dennis

Re: ZonOpToon alternative

PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 8:18 am
by TheHogNL
First of all. You don't replace the fuse :-) The kWh meter is added in series between the installation wires and the fuse.

Which kWh meter depends on if your solar panels are wired 3-fase or 1-fase to the rest of your fusebox. Doesn't matter if your house is 3-fase or 1-fase connected to the grid.
It is easy to check how it is connected. Is your extra fuse for the solar panels group a 1-fase or 3-fase? 1-fase is ofter 1 or 2 slots big. 3-fase is 4-slots big.