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Re: Toon app: boiler status

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Pochoto2 wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 11:53 pm Hi all,

In the past (before rooting the toon) i was able to see the number of hours the boiler burner worked. This value was restarted every day.

I have installer the boiler status app but there is no way to get this information.

Is there any way to see tat information?


Thanks in advance.
Yes, there is no app for that as far as I know but you can retrieve the burner minute counter per hour of the last 5 years using the following request:

http://<IPaddress of your toon>/hcb_rrd?action=getRrdData&loggerName=boiler_burner_minutes&rra=5yrhours&readableTime=1&nullForNaN=1
will return all data from the last 5 years in JSON format

http://<IPaddress of your toon>/hcb_rrd?action=getRrdData&loggerName=boiler_burner_minutes&rra=5yrhours&readableTime=1&nullForNaN=1&from=01-11-2024%2000:00
will return the values in JSON format from november 1st as an example

P.S. this counter is only maintained by Toon if your boiler is using the On/Off control method. If you are using OpenTherm this value is not updated by Toon

Hope this helps.

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Re: Toon app: boiler status

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for OpenTherm boilers you probably can use this instead:
http://<ipaddressofyourtoon>/hcb_rrd?action=getRrdData&loggerName=thermstat_boilerOpMode&rra=30days&readableTime=1&nullForNaN=1
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Re: Toon app: boiler status

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Thanks Toonz!

i run this command because mi boiler is using the On/Off control method:

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http://<IPaddress of your toon>/hcb_rrd?action=getRrdData&loggerName=boiler_burner_minutes&rra=5yrhours&readableTime=1&nullForNaN=1&from=01-11-2024%2000:00
And it returns this, how can i read it? What does "13114" or "13119" mean?

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{ "01-11-2024 01:00:00": 13114,"01-11-2024 02:00:00": 13114,"01-11-2024 03:00:00": 13114,"01-11-2024 04:00:00": 13114,"01-11-2024 05:00:00": 13114,"01-11-2024 06:00:00": 13114,"01-11-2024 07:00:00": 13114,"01-11-2024 08:00:00": 13114,"01-11-2024 09:00:00": 13114,"01-11-2024 10:00:00": 13114,"01-11-2024 11:00:00": 13114,"01-11-2024 12:00:00": 13114,"01-11-2024 13:00:00": 13114,"01-11-2024 14:00:00": 13114,"01-11-2024 15:00:00": 13114,"01-11-2024 16:00:00": 13114,"01-11-2024 17:00:00": 13114,"01-11-2024 18:00:00": 13114,"01-11-2024 19:00:00": 13114,"01-11-2024 20:00:00": 13114,"01-11-2024 21:00:00": 13119,"01-11-2024 22:00:00": 13119,"01-11-2024 23:00:00": 13119,"02-11-2024 00:00:00": 13119,"02-11-2024 01:00:00": 13119,"02-11-2024 02:00:00": 13119,"02-11-2024 03:00:00": 13119,"02-11-2024 04:00:00": 13119,"02-11-2024 05:00:00": 13119,"02-11-2024 06:00:00": 13119,"02-11-2024 07:00:00": 13119,"02-11-2024 08:00:00": 13119,"02-11-2024 09:00:00": 13119,"02-11-2024 10:00:00": 13119,"02-11-2024 11:00:00": 13119,"02-11-2024 12:00:00": 13119,"02-11-2024 13:00:00": 13119,"02-11-2024 14:00:00": 13119,"02-11-2024 15:00:00": 13119,"02-11-2024 16:00:00": 13119,"02-11-2024 17:00:00": 13119,"02-11-2024 18:00:00": 13119,"02-11-2024 19:00:00": 13119,"02-11-2024 20:00:00": 13131,"02-11-2024 21:00:00": 13131,"02-11-2024 22:00:00": 13132,"02-11-2024 23:00:00": 13132,"03-11-2024 00:00:00": 13133,"03-11-2024 01:00:00": 13135,"03-11-2024 02:00:00": 13138,"03-11-2024 03:00:00": 13139,"03-11-2024 04:00:00": 13139,"03-11-2024 05:00:00": 13139,"03-11-2024 06:00:00": 13139,"03-11-2024 07:00:00": 13139,"03-11-2024 08:00:00": 13139,"03-11-2024 09:00:00": 13139,"03-11-2024 10:00:00": 13153,"03-11-2024 11:00:00": 13153,"03-11-2024 12:00:00": 13153,"03-11-2024 13:00:00": 13153,"03-11-2024 14:00:00": 13153,"03-11-2024 15:00:00": 13153,"03-11-2024 16:00:00": 13153,"03-11-2024 17:00:00": 13153,"03-11-2024 18:00:00": 13153,"03-11-2024 19:00:00": 13153,"03-11-2024 20:00:00": 13161}
Is there any option to get the burner hours in the main TOON screen? Right now, only tiles about m3 and Euros are available for gas usage.
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Re: Toon app: boiler status

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these are the total minutes the boiler has been burning since the start of measuring.
In order to know how long the boiler burnt in that hour you need to substract the number from the previous hour from the value.

exanple:"01-11-2024 01:00:00": 13114,"01-11-2024 02:00:00": 13120"
The boiler has been burning 6 minutes during 01:00 and 02:00.

At the moment this value cannot be shown on the main screen, someone needs to write an app for that.
Total number of hours at the last time is 13120/60 = 218.7 hours but this value is not reset to 0 if you get a new boiler.
Why do you want to see this on the Toon main screen?
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Re: Toon app: boiler status

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Understood!! Thanks for the explanation

That value was the only reference to know how much time the boiler has been working in my case, since the gas volume metric is not available (I haven't gas meter)

The tile with this information was a default option for Viesgo TOON in Spain, but it disappeared too.
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Re: Toon app: boiler status

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ah, ok, when I have time I can write a simple app for this.
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Re: Toon app: boiler status

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It'd be great!! I really appreciate your support/efforts

The tile was something like this, showing the working minutes/hours each day:

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When i had the Viesgo subscription i was also able to see this kind of graphics for electricity/boiler burner. I assume now it is impossible to recover them:

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Re: Toon app: boiler status

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maybe when you go back to the Viesgo tenant?

I am updating the boiler status app at the moment with an extra tile....
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Re: Toon app: boiler status

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Toonz wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 3:30 pm maybe when you go back to the Viesgo tenant?

I am updating the boiler status app at the moment with an extra tile....

The last Viesgo tenant hasn't tiles to add...I had to modified it adding some lines from Eneco tenant to make the electricity tile visible, so i don't know how to recover the code for getting the burner minutes.

I tried with:

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	"appBoilerMonitoringEnabled": true,
		"appUpsellFeatures" : [ "graphs", "statusUsage", "boilerMonitor", "controlPanel", "weather", "smokeDetector" ]
			"installationWizardApps": [
		"language|true",
		"internet|true",
		"activation|true",
		"update|false",
		"emeters|false",
		"heating|true",
		"boiler|true"
	],
	"appBoilerMonitorEnabled": true,
But all these changes to "true" for the boiler options didn't make the burner tile appeared
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Re: Toon app: boiler status

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Toonz wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 3:30 pm maybe when you go back to the Viesgo tenant?

I am updating the boiler status app at the moment with an extra tile....
Hi Toonz,

Did you upload any boiler status app update?

Thanks
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Re: Toon app: boiler status

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no, got some delays due to "Sinterklaas" and now X-Mas, still on my radar, will post it here if a new version is ready
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Re: Toon app: boiler status

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running in test here......will release later this week for further testing.
Note: I noticed that for boilers which are controlled via the OpenTherm protocol these boiler burner values (minutes) are not tracked by Toon.
For the on/off controlled boilers it seems ok but I have no live boiler attached to my dev toon ;-)
to be continued.....
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Re: Toon app: boiler status

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I have put the new version 1.0.8 in the dev repository for you to try (without publishing it to the wider community yet).

You can show the dev repository in the ToonStore app by pressing a (hidden) button in the left margin of the screen next to the second item on the ToonStore screen. Press the button twice till you see "Bron: dev repository" at the bottom right corner of the screen.

The first app shown is version 1.0.8 of the boilerstatus app. Install it as usual. After the reboot of the gui you have an extra tile "Boiler Minutes" to put on the homescreen. It will show you the number of minutes the boiler has been burning today.
Note: this data is not available for OpenTherm boilers......

Let me know if this works for you.
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Re: Toon app: boiler status

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Maybe you can look at the app pumpSwitch, in that app the switch states of the opentherm is also used. Maybe you can put a timer around that switch states?
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Re: Toon app: boiler status

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Toonz wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2024 4:03 pm I have put the new version 1.0.8 in the dev repository for you to try (without publishing it to the wider community yet).

You can show the dev repository in the ToonStore app by pressing a (hidden) button in the left margin of the screen next to the second item on the ToonStore screen. Press the button twice till you see "Bron: dev repository" at the bottom right corner of the screen.

The first app shown is version 1.0.8 of the boilerstatus app. Install it as usual. After the reboot of the gui you have an extra tile "Boiler Minutes" to put on the homescreen. It will show you the number of minutes the boiler has been burning today.
Note: this data is not available for OpenTherm boilers......

Let me know if this works for you.
Thanks a lot Toonz! I've just read your posts.

Let me try it!!! I'll keep you posted

Update:

App installed and working

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Update 2:

@Toonz i am wondering how difficult could be to implement the same information in the same tile for the last 30days. It would provide a reference about the upcoming gas bill
I don't want to make you waste time on an useless development, but if it is easy and takes few minutes it would be great 👍

Thanks for your contribution, I really appreciate it 😊
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