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Replacement advice

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 3:33 pm
by TANE
Hi All,
I need some advice about replacement of an existing combination of power outlet and switch.
I have only one gap available.

The switch part is directly connected to the 220v

what i need at the end.
Power outlet
light Switch
X10

are there other product on the market that i can use in combination with x10 micro modules

picture of the existing combi.

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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 5:43 pm
by Digit
Hi Chak,
I have the same combi here in my house.
I managed to put a micro module (AW12) behind it to control the switch remotely. The outlet is not X10-switched, however.

Regards,
Robert.

Replacement advice

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 5:48 pm
by TANE
Robert,
I did tray this ones it cost me one SAIX :(
there is 220 volt always on the sw.

Can you please describe how you connected the AW12.
Enver

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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 9:18 pm
by Digit
Pfff,

I had to dismantle the whole thing, but now i remember...

When you hold the switch/outlet in front of you as shown on your picture, you can see a "strip" on the left going from the outlet to the switch. If so, then connect the wires like this: brown (fase) goes to the bottom left, blue (nul) goes bottom right, the black switch wire from the AW12 goes top left. And don't forget to use all 4 screw connections on the AW12. (you'll need an extra blue wire (dmv lasdop (oops, that's dutch))

That's it!

Regards,
Robert.

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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 10:31 pm
by TANE
Robert,
can you please take look at the picture.
(I have removed the switch part to see it better)

AM12
free connectors are for the lamp.

power
just connect both colors to the lasdop.

and then try to put all in single gap..:(
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Replacement advice

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 10:47 pm
by Digit
Hi Chak,

Yes, this should work, assuming the switch is making/breaking the contact between the brown (fase) and the AW12 switch wire.
I'll add a little drawing to try and make you more confident about how you connected it.

(Remember, this drawing is for my situation)

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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 10:54 pm
by Lennart
Hi Chak,

I had a similar switch/power outlet combination in my walls. I opted for the hard way and made an extra hole and replaced the combined switch/power outlet with two separate devices, as I wanted to use a two-way Xanura module (SAIX) and, as you found out yourself, one shouldn't put 230V on the switch wires of the SAIX module. Furthermore, an earthed outlet, together with a switch, a micromodule and some "lasdoppen" in one hole? That will get very cramped... If you drill an exra hole, you can also opt for 50mm "inbouwdozen", that should fit all hardware neatly.

Lennart

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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 11:08 pm
by TANE
Thank you for your response.
I'm not a big fan of the AW12
The click sound is to much.

For the time being i will use it..and by the next painting of the wall I will make a extra hole.


Enver

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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 1:12 pm
by TANE
I forgot to tell that this is a hotel switch.
downstairs there is also I switch
I think the best is to replace the unit downstairs with Xanura AIX?
or can I still use the current traditional switch?

Replacement advice

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 3:58 pm
by Digit
Look here: http://www.marmitek.com/nl/manual/9463.pdf, Page 6. These 2 schematics will probably help you to decide what to do.

Regards,
Robert.

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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 10:26 pm
by Henk
You may consider a Xanura SAIX12 module ... this module can be placed close to the light - the input of this module should be the 230V on/off signal from the both "hotel" switches ... or in case there is no room at the light - put it behind the last hotel-switch .... just the black wire from the switch to the module input - the module should be powered with the blue and brown wire - and the output of them odule should be the black wire to the lamp.

Henk

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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 10:36 pm
by TANE
Henk,
I wish there was a SAIX12..but with a AIX12 and a SAIX we can build that...:)...I hope..[8)]

I can just put the AIX12 and the SAIX in the lamp house.
don't need to modify any switch
hope this will work.

thanks for the tip

Enver