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Stealths

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 7:56 pm
by pengbo
Is it possible to buy these in the UK?

I have some built-in appliances in the kitchen that it would be impossible to plug a circle into without it pushing the appliance massively out of position. I think a stealth buried in the wall and linked to a slave plug would be just the ticket.

Re: Stealths

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 9:57 am
by DJF3
I would send this question to Plugwise.
DJ

Re: Stealths

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 1:00 pm
by Akatar
as far as i know, a stealth don't need a slave plug?
in fact i never heard of a slave plug?

Re: Stealths

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 3:15 pm
by Phoenix
Akatar wrote:in fact i never heard of a slave plug?
The "slave" plugs are "normal" circles, the "master" plug is the Circle+ (or the Stealth)

You can aslo read it here how a Zigbee network works : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZigBee

Circle+:
ZigBee Co-ordinator (ZC): The most capable device, the Co-ordinator forms the root of the network tree and might bridge to other networks. There is exactly one ZigBee Co-ordinator in each network since it is the device that started the network originally (the ZigBee LightLink specification also allows operation without a ZigBee Co-ordinator, making it more usable for over-the-shelf home products). It stores information about the network, including acting as the Trust Center & repository for security keys.

Circle:
ZigBee End Device (ZED): Contains just enough functionality to talk to the parent node (either the Co-ordinator or a Router); it cannot relay data from other devices. This relationship allows the node to be asleep a significant amount of the time thereby giving long battery life. A ZED requires the least amount of memory, and therefore can be less expensive to manufacture than a ZR or ZC.

Re: Stealths

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 4:02 pm
by Akatar
the plugwise circle can relay data from other circles to other circles.
so it's not a slave module

Re: Stealths

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 4:11 pm
by Phoenix
Akatar wrote:the plugwise circle can relay data from other circles to other circles.
so it's not a slave module
As stated above: Contains just enough functionality to talk to the parent node (either the Co-ordinator or a Router --> Circle+) it cannot relay data from other devices.

Look here: http://eetimes.com/design/microwave-rf- ... Technology

Red dots = Circle or Stealth
Green dot = Circle+ (coordinator)
Blue dot(s) = Stretch 2.0 (or any ZigBee router) (could be a coordinator, if there is no Circle+ around?)

Re: Stealths

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 4:19 pm
by Akatar
as far as i know every circle talks to other circles and relay data to other circles
every circle functions as a router

http://www.plugwise.com/sites/default/f ... 0615_0.pdf

Re: Stealths

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 11:08 pm
by nico_gh2
Agree with Akatar on the various modules talking to each other.
As a matter of fact the Stealth is just a Circle without the plugs to connect to your wall outlet, functionality is the same as a circle.

The Circle+ is the one talking to your stick and 'there can be only one' to use a well known line.