Heating, which one of the two?

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Heating, which one of the two?

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Ok,

I just got the paperwork so i can choose on which kind of heater my house is going to have. The chronotherm iv will come standard.

http://www.waakzaamwonen.nl/catalog/pro ... hermostaat

But..

I think this one: http://www.waakzaamwonen.nl/catalog/pro ... ouchscreen

Looks much better! .. but does it do the same? Can it also be controlled with a x10 control or similar? Or is it less smart then the IV?

So:

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Well.. according to the manual it has the "TELE-ingang" too, so x10 control shouldn't be a problem.

From what I get from quickly skimming the manuals, the units are very similar.
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Yes, but the IV has a pc function of some kind. While the other has not (from the short description) but this is not the "tele-ingang" strangely enough the big touchscreen one is cheaper then the IV.. so that gets me thinking.. why?

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The "TELE-ingang" is just an input to set the setpoint to a preprogrammed value, nothing special. Before you buy anything make sure you've had a look at them in real life: The touch screen version looked very appealing to me too at first, but when I saw it in real life it looked very cheap to me. It's polar white and it seems to be made of the cheapest plastic they could find.

When I was still considering an ATAG boiler I had a glance at their thermostat too, the BrainQ, but that thing is just butt ugly. I really liked the Nefit Module thermostat. It's got graphic back-lit display, capable of plotting setpoint and measure temperature charts. Both have a digital input to control it externally, but both use a proprietary protocol, my main reason for not buying any of their equipment.

I eventually decided to get a Remeha Celcia 20 thermostat. It's not the prettiest pencil in the box but my reasons for buying it were:<ul><li>It uses the OpenTherm protocol</li><li>It has a digital input, programmable to perform a wide variety of tasks when triggered</li><li>It can be programmed with switch points instead of temperature periods</li><li>It can be fully controlled through the serial port of the optional Remeha GateWay</li></ul>The third point was important to me becuase I want to be able to define a scheme which only switches <i>off</i> the heating system without ever switching it on. So the user sets the setpoint to 20 degrees when he comes home and the scheme switches it to 17 degrees after 12 o'clock.

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What i was thinking is, use the tele ingang for setting it to 17 degrees or so, normally it would be preset for 20 degrees then. So when i leave, use the tele ingang and it would put the rooms to 17 degrees, same for after 12 o'clock. Whenever i would come in early i would just "relase" the tele ingang from an interaface (web) to go back to the normal preset 20.

Is this assumption correct?

The remeha celcia doesn't look that bad though. Any more information about it, what you managed to do with it (and how) since i allready know how to work the tele-ingang though.

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That assumption would be correct, even though 'assumption is the mother of all fu*ck ups' ;-). A good starting point for this thermostat in general would be the users manual:
http://start.remeha.com/pdfs/al/58223-1204.pdf
And more information about the possibilities of the input contact can be found in the installation manual:
http://start.remeha.com/pdfs/al/58224-0805.pdf
Keep in mind that ECO-temp is the programmed idle-temperature (eg. 17 degrees). Afaik it also implies that stand-by for warm water is disabled when ECO-temp is selected. This means that the boiler will no longer keep a stock of hot water stand-by. Hot water will still be available, but it will take a little longer. Temp-5 is the programmed on-temperature. Of coarse you can change all temperatures yourself.
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