Ghost group

Post by **Antoon** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:43 pm

Hi,
This evening when i went home i found the toilet lamp was on.
It was not react on the push button with the SAIX behind.
I also heard no relais switching.
I try another lamp on the bedroom that was on the same group from the fusebox.
One time i could the lamp switch on and then no reaction anymore.
Then i have try every lamp on that group and all had the same problem.
I disconnect the compleet group from teh power for a couple of minutes.
Switch on the power and try again.
You guess, one time it works and then nothing.
No lamp is going on or off and the relais are only switching one time.
All the lamps on the other group still works.
Anybody?

Antoon

Post by **MindBender** » Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:50 am

Did you make sure no interfering devices are connected to this group? My installation was once held hostage by a faulty AC adapter for my phone. Disconnecting it made the problem disappear, but reconnecting it didn't make the problem re-appear immediately. Only after some time the problems came back.

So first try to unplug all appliances from your outlets and see if it make the problem disappear.

Post by **Antoon** » Tue Aug 26, 2008 7:43 pm

Thanks,
I first unplugged every outlet you said but the problem was still there.
So i tought it could be only one of my modules on that group.
Started to disconnect the Xanura modules.
And yes the last module has a problem (why is it alwys the last [:(!] )
It was the module that is connected to my frontdoor light.
I have recently buy a new lamp outside (LED 230V).
It was al the time a little bit strange because the lamp was not always going 100% off.
There was always a small light from the led's.
Somebody know if the Xanura have problems with LED lamps?
Is it possible to track down these modules that have a problem with the PMIX?

Antoon

Post by **MindBender** » Tue Aug 26, 2008 9:49 pm

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by antoon
(why is it alwys the last [:(!] )
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Because you started at the wrong end?

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">It was the module that is connected to my frontdoor light.
I have recently buy a new lamp outside (LED 230V).
It was al the time a little bit strange because the lamp was not always going 100% off. There was always a small light from the led's.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">That's strange. I assume you're not using a dimmer? Because dimmers have a minimum load, which is not met by just a LED.
<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Somebody know if the Xanura have problems with LED lamps?
Is it possible to track down these modules that have a problem with the PMIX?
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">I am not aware of any Xanura modules not being able to handle LED illumination, but the light load may cause problems for dimmer modules. Though there's quite much experience with LED illumination on this forum, so I'm sure somebody else can contribute something useful here.
The power supply in the LED fixture may interfere with the reception of the Xanura module. Did you determing whether the lamp or the module caused the problem?
The PMIX should be able to find noise on the line, but I don't have any experience with that yet.

Post by **Antoon** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:18 pm

Yeah i started at the easy side,so the last module was hard to reach.
And i use not a dimmer for that lamp.
Tonight i have connected a new module to it and it seems that everything is working again.
Hope it is not for a short time.
The module that was causing the problem was one of my oldest.
I guess there is no garantee on it anymore.

Thanks,
Antoon